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"a watcher - Why are you still posting here. Don't you know this is an apostate website?
And according to the watchtower, it apears that I have time between when the tribulation starts and the start of armageddon."
Yes, Watcher must be an apostate. he/she is contradicting what's published in the latest study article! :-)
(the watchtower, october 1, 1984, p. 24).
...resurrected in 1925 to rule as princes over the earth.
(millions now living will never die, 1920, pp.
I think that Germany was supposed to be the "King of North" in those days. Probably the start of WWII was considered the start of the tribulation for Rutherford as the WWI war the start of tribulation for the Russel contemporaries.
But Rutherford making an ass of himself was related to 1925 and the "Millions" campaigne.
i have only posted on here several times, but i am constantly reading what others post.
i guess i am more of a reader than author.
that being said i am happy to announce i am no longer one of the jehovah's witnesses.
I do think this is very logical. What the org feares most is apostacy. There could be some troubles with sexual relationships, drinking, drugs, etc....even paedophilia. But these things doen't threat the power of the organisation. But doubts and "apostacy" does.
This shown that the main reason of those committies is to protect the organisation, not the individual JW.
in an effort to keep their delusion alive it is only natural for them hate something that lifts the vails of their delusion and lay it barren.
their hate is transfered to the faithful rank and file and manifested in their forbidding it to the young who will surely see the ignorance of their delusion.
narcissistic delusions of divine appointment are resisted at the expense of the young.. they hate higher education to the same extent they hate psychiatry because both tread on their delusion and identify it in clear terms..
Now it's a long time since I left, but I remember that even in university towns there were very few JW's with higher education. I remember one who got PhD, and there was also a dentist.
A lot of the JW's were cleaners, but they seemed to avoid working at the university even as cleaners! Maybe the atmospere at the university was dangerous?! :-)
This was in the 1980's. Nowdays the JW's in Sweden are losing very many of the young ones. I should guess that some 70-80% of the young ones leave the organisation.
I remember that in the 1980's there used to be some 800-1000 people baptized every year in Sweden. Last year it was only 312.
in an effort to keep their delusion alive it is only natural for them hate something that lifts the vails of their delusion and lay it barren.
their hate is transfered to the faithful rank and file and manifested in their forbidding it to the young who will surely see the ignorance of their delusion.
narcissistic delusions of divine appointment are resisted at the expense of the young.. they hate higher education to the same extent they hate psychiatry because both tread on their delusion and identify it in clear terms..
I am not so sure that the guys in the GB are deluted. Thay might as well be doing damage control.
If they are deluted, they would not be aware of their delusion.
my computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.
i must vent, however.
perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.
" Loose organizations with peers have many advantages. Agility is important. A massive blow as in David and Goliath is not likely. Skirmishes and reframing issues can win a sustained war. Don't follow leaders, to quote Dylan. If everyone here is concious of the WT in their routine lives and engages in small actions based on their gut feelings, the WT faces a formidable foe."
Yes, I agree!
The most important we can do on the web is to reach lurkers. This have to be done in a careful way. Don't scare them away.
hi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
Lost:......I think we got the point!
good afternoon jwn... .
i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .
aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.
""Cedars' refusal to budge on this very simple matter, along with all the dishonesty we've seen, has completely impaired his credibility and any trust we can have in this group."
I think it was just that dishonesty that made people furious.
But now things have gone a lot further.
i guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
"All speculation, assumption and conjecture."
Oh, yes! John Cedars exists, and the AWAA is his chosen channel of communication.
i guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
I'm sure Barbara found out and left as quick as she could.
